The Thach Ba
Line Drawings
Introduction. You should have come to this page from the article
describing an attempt by Senator Bob Smith and former USMC Private Robert Garwood, in July
1993, to mislead people as to the facts of Garwood's claims that he saw US POWs in Vietnam
in 1977. If you have not read that article, you need to go back and read the article
about The Island Fortress. It will provide you
with the background and it has a link back to this page.
Now that you have read the Island Fortress article, you have the background to
see what this is all about.
Smith Returns From Vietnam
When Senator Smith returned to Washington, D.C. from his trip to Hanoi, he was ready to
bash the Defense Intelligence Agency. According to Smith, he and Garwood had found
buildings that ". . . DIA has said did not exist." These were the very
buildings where Garwood saw US POWs in September 1977. We were called to his office
to hear his report on the trip. In the course of having him beat up on us, we asked
him a few questions. It turned out that the Smith party had carried a global
positioning system (GPS) receiver and he had the coordinates of the ferry landing where
they got on the boat that took them to the buildings and the coordinates of the buildings.
We obtained those coordinates from him and went to the National Photographic
Interpretation Center (NPIC). We had the imagery analysts at NPIC pull satellite
imagery of Thach Ba, going back to 1977, that showed the coordinates of the spots that
Smith had provided us.
What the Imagery Showed
The imagery analysts then reviewed that imagery to see if the buildings Smith and
Garwood had visited in July 1993 were present previously. Surprise, surprise.
The buildings clearly were present on imagery of July 1991 but after that, it got
shaky. There were buildings present in 1991, 1989, and 1985. Then -- in
imagery of 1984, 1983, 1980, 1978, and 1977 -- there were no buildings of any kind on the
site. Smith was not happy with this report. Senator John McCain got wind of
this and we briefed him. McCain went to the producers of ABC's 20/20 -- who had
taken a production crew to Vietnam with Smith and were preparing to show the Smith-Garwood
dog and pony show. The ABC producers would not listen to McCain and they ran the
story anyway.
The satellite imagery that was analyzed in response to the Smith-Garwood trip is
classified. However, to brief members of Congress with unclassified material, NPIC
analysts prepared line drawings from the imagery. These line drawings -- detailed
sketches, to scale -- show all the items of importance that are shown on the imagery.
However, with line drawings another analyst is not able to detect the capabilities
of the system that took the image, thus allowing the line drawings to be unclassified.
I submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the Department of Defense for
documents pertaining to the Smith-Garwood 1993 trip to Vietnam and the line drawings were
in the material that I received in return.
Date of imagery |
What the imagery showed at the location of
the Smith-Garwood July 1993 visit |
24 July 1991 |
The buildings visited by Smith and Garwood are there. |
17 June 1989 |
The buildings visited by Smith and Garwood are not there but there are nearby
buildings and evidence of construction. |
14 May 1985 |
The buildings visited by Smith and Garwood are not there but there are nearby
buildings. |
4 June 1984 |
There is not a building within a 2-mile radius. |
18 November 1983 |
There is not a building within a 3-mile radius. |
27 August 1980 |
There is not a building within a 3-mile radius. |
14 July 1978 |
There is not a building within a 5-mile radius. |
27 September 1977 |
There is not a building within a 3-mile radius. Remember, September 1977 is the
date Garwood put on his sighting of US POWs at the island fortress. |
The Line Drawings
I have scanned the line drawings into jpeg files and prepared a brief description of
each line drawing, each on a separate page. Below is a table with links to the line
drawings. I recommend that you start with the 24 July 1991 and work back
chronologically. These jpeg files are big -- one of them is over 2 MB -- and the
pages take a couple of minutes to load. Please be patient; thank you.
Remember the following series of events.
- March 1979: Garwood returns to the US from 14 years in Vietnam. He
was interviewed in several venues and each time he stated that he had not seen any
Americans in Vietnam after 1973.
- February 1981: Garwood is convicted by court-martial of collaboration with
the enemy and of striking an American POW.
- 1984: After several meetings with former Congressman Billy Hendon, Garwood
told a Wall Street Journal reporter -- who was often in the company of Hendon --
that he had seen US POWs on several occasions between 1973 and 1978.
One of those sightings was the "Island Fortress"
sighting in which Garwood claimed that he saw US POWs on an island in Thach Ba in
September 1977.
- 1981 - 1989: The Defense Intelligence Agency attempts to interview Garwood
regarding his "live sightings." Garwood avoids all contact with DIA,
ostensibly because his conviction is under appeal. In January 1986, the Supreme
Court lets stand his conviction and he agrees to talk with DIA. He is interviewed
off and on 1986 - 1989. DIA analyzes his information and concludes that Garwood's
claims to have seen US POWs in Vietnam after 1973 are without merit. Senator Smith
disputes these findings in several meetings with DIA personnel; smith emerges as an
advocate for Garwood.
- July 1993: Billy Hendon goes to Vietnam, followed shortly by Smith and
Garwood.
- According to the owner/operator of a ferry on Thach Ba who was interviewed in July 1993
by DIA, Hendon approached him about hiring his ferry to take a trip along the shore of
Thach Ba to locate some buildings. A few days later, Smith and Garwood came to the
same ferry and had the operator take them to the same buildings to which he had taken
Hendon a few days before.
- Garwood walked up to the buildings and announced that this is where he had seen US POWs
in September 1977.
- Smith and Garwood were accompanied by an ABC 20/20 crew who filmed and reported on the
whole affair.
What you will see on the line drawings
The line drawings are just that: drawings of what is seen on the imagery.
the line drawings show only land forms, roads, buildings, and vegetation. In our
meetings with Smith, he traced out the route that he, Garwood, and the 20/20 crew from the
ferry landing to the buildings. I have drawn on the first line drawing their route
and on each line drawing I have circled in red the area where the 1993 buildings were.
What Is Important Here
These are the important points.
- The satellite imagery does not simply not support Garwood's claim of having
seen US POWs in a building on an island in Thach Ba in 1977. The imagery
refutes Garwood's claim.
- Reviews of imagery to search for a building or buildings on an island as described by
Garwood show no such structures anywhere in the lake.
- Reviews of imagery of the area visited by Smith and Garwood in 1993, where Garwood
claimed to have found the buildings in his 1977 claim, show that the buildings they
visited in 1993 were not constructed until after 1984.
- Senator Smith was shown the imagery; we went over it with him and answered his
questions. He clearly understood that the buildings that he and Garwood visited in
1993 were not built until after 1984. In fact, residents of the buildings told him
that. Smith completely ignored these facts and went ahead with his
ABC 20/20 interview and his press releases.
- ABC 20/20 was shown the line drawings by Senator McCain. ABC ignored the
facts, never asked DIA for any input at all, and went ahead with this bogus
story.
- The whole affair was set up by Billy Hendon, who traveled to Vietnam
with Smith, Garwood, and the ABC 20/20 crew. Hendon went to the lake before Smith
and Garwood, found some buildings, and set up this charade.
Sort of makes you proud to be an American.
A technical note
As you view the line drawings, you will notice that the shape of the landforms changes,
especially the shoreline. This is true for two reasons:
- The satellite is not necessarily looking straight down with every photograph, thereby
making the shore lines look different because of the obliquity involved.
- The photographs were made at different times of the year. Thach Ba is a reservoir
used for flood control and irrigation purposes. Thus, the water level varies and
this variation will cause the shoreline to change shape somewhat.
Follow this link to start with the 24 July 1991 imagery.
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